WW HOUSE RULES

Robyo wrote:

Prone rules are on page 225. Basically, prone character moves 1/2 speed, is -5 to attack rolls (against non-prone targets), and adjacent (non-prone) opponents enjoy +2 to attack.

House Rule: prone targets gain +2 to all defenses against ranged attacks by opponents that are not adjacent to it.

Chris, thanks for bringing this up. I hadn't been using bonuses for the yoties vs (prone) Auren. Guess I'm going soft.

Robyo wrote:I'm not against Opportunity Attacks. Seeing as how I'm the one who first initiated one in this encounter. I'm just not happy with the liteness of the rules in Radiance as written when they relate to AoOs. So it's another area to be houseruled.

»» You fire a ranged weapon while adjacent to a foe.

I like this, but agreed it's not written as clearly as it could be. "Threat zone" helps to differentiate.

I think in our case, the moment when Auren popped his head up through the trap door is when he got zapped. He could not get and AoO then, because he was still holding onto the ladder and I believe had his sword sheathed then, and making a perception check.

»» You use a magic ability while adjacent to a foe. Abilities marked
with an M are magic abilities.

This one I do not like. The only magic restriction I'm calling for is radiance powder required as a component for paragon and epic tiers.

»» You move while adjacent to a creature larger than you. The
opportunity attack is resolved as an immediate action prior to you
moving.

This rule I like, but the creature need not be larger, only same size or greater. (We can use reach rules for larger creatures). You can also resolve the attack with a ranged weapon. No feat-tax to do so. Finally, if you are proficient in a weapon, you can use it bluntly (bow, handle of a dagger/sword,pistol butt, etc).

This rule also cover disengaging from a fight, unless someone shifts.

Robyo wrote:

+2 bonus for flanking.

whit10 wrote:so you have to have some sort of religion or deity to get faith points? I can't find this section in the book

whit10 wrote:I'd love to find a more atheistic approach to this... Tommy doesn't really believe in 'hokey religions'

whit10 wrote:only according to the game

I would like to make one House Rule suggestion Mr.GM. The rules have only the Pathfinder getting Precise Shot (gets rid of shooting into melee penalty). This really bothers me... any chance of getting that expanded so that it's also an Intermediate power for Gunslingers?

whit10 wrote:I'd love to find a more atheistic approach to this... Tommy doesn't really believe in 'hokey religions'

I could make a tweak though if its necessary...

whit10 wrote:can I do that now or would you like me to wait until a different time?

whit10 wrote:Ok, I have to be honest... I'm really bored with this character. Only good at one thing really and just not what I would have made if I'd understood the rules better. So, with your approval of course, I'd like to have Tommy die off or just walk off into the sunset (since his horse is dead) and I have another character that I'd like to try that I'm far more enthusiastic about...

A Goliath Shifter... raised amongst the Chiricahua Apache (they count as Goliath and human... maybe he's a half-breed?) anyway, he's the last of his particular tribe and really has it in for the White Man, but is more focused on The American government for wiping out his tribe. If anyone has seen the movie Maverick (Mel Gibson and James Garner) he's very close the Indian character that Graham Greene plays... kind of a prankster and generally kinda silly, unless he sees blue-coats.. and then, he's not so nice.

Can I do this? I'd be happy to start at 4th level (I'm assuming this current fight would get Tommy to 5th level were it that he lives) since I'm electing to start a different character, I think a penalty for doing so is acceptable.

please?

Chris wrote:if\when we come back to WWW, I might change it up too. I have been thinking more along the lines of my original concept of blending a gunslinger with a paladin. I ended up going drack\melee just cuz that is how paladin is built. I think I would probably stay pure gunslinger but use a theme like Arcanist to pick up some magical abilities and make use of the Int. tier ability Gun Mage to enhance his shots with a magical effect. maybe take something like a Disguise self or Invisible Step spell too.

more of an X-files\men in black kind of 'lawman' than a local, maybe a secret society or at least a secret 'smoking men room' within the government. or maybe (big maybe) mix in a Townie class like assassin\ninja\rough rider, just cuz they get some great abilities\skills too.

i won't really take much more of look at it until after SW and we decide if we are returning to WWW

Robyo wrote:
This sounds like an entirely new character concept. Scrapping Auren? Whichever, but I do like the dragonborn paladin marshal.

whit10 wrote:Cool. I'm far more interested in the new guy so lets play it how ever you want. He's pretty much made except for gear and magic items. I'd like to ask some questions... we all got magic items in the form of weapons but this guy is all bite and claw attacks, could I have a necklace or something that gives a +1 to hit and damage?

Otherwise, unless its there's a similar item that gives DR or something, I can't see him having all that much in the way of magic items. I'll post him in a few days for your inspection. The Protector Theme was allowed right?

Chris wrote:

Robyo wrote:
This sounds like an entirely new character concept. Scrapping Auren? Whichever, but I do like the dragonborn paladin marshal.

well, it was more like my original thought, before I got sidetracked into the more melee paladin type. then the Noble title\Marshall made sense to help him be accepted in a human town and it just evolved from there.

I do like Auren, but acutally playing with guns in a western has a certain appeal to it too.

my mind may be totally different this summer\fall too, after running a bunch of gun-totting baddies in SW.

and just to be honest, I like to change characters and try things out on a regular basis, especially with a new system

Robyo wrote:I emailed Dan twice about Deflect Arrows... I'm allowing it for bullets or any ranged weapon (that has mass). Basically, ranged attacks which target Reflex. Deflect Arrows also includes magic weapons, but not spell effects (magical abilities) that are weapons or rays or breath weapons and so on. It can only be used once-per-round and as an Intermediate tier ability, I don't think it's overpowered.



I've been reviewing the old W/W threads, re-familiarizing myself with the campaign details. Also been Copy and Pasting some stuff to a master document...


There's quite a few bits of background and houserules posted thoughout the sprawl. So, I will try to restate things, but I want to have it organized (a very tedious process).

Off the top of my head:

~Target number for Saves/Defenses IS the number. The books says to exceed the number, nope.

~We are using HP for armor. Forget what I said earlier, there's no bonus HP for magic armor. We are using Armor Piercing rules: For every +5 over the target number, 3 points of damage get through DR.

~No bonus Faith Points for divine classes. At each level, PCs get half their level in FP (8th level characters get 4). They do not accrue beyond levels. Besides spending them for boons from a deity, spend an FP (once per round) for:
-a extra standard action on your turn
-a re-roll
-add 1d6 to a roll
-Also spend an FP to get your level+Con mod in Vitality (Recovery). In combat, a PC can get one recovery (Second Wind) per encounter. Out of Combat, you can spend as many FP's as you want for Recoveries.

~Healing (natural) is...
One Hour Rest: regain 5 Vitality
Six Hour Rest: regain level*5+Con Mod Vitality; 1 Wound Point

~Masterwork stuff IS allowed (I don't even know why I said it wasn't).

~Electrotech is allowed, but still quite rare, so your character concept/background needs to fit with why a PC might own/use electrotech.

~When multiclassing, and in the case where abilities are stackable, use the Prime that is highest.

~Ignore racial multi-class restrictions. You can choose any, but must meet the pre-reqs. A character can Multiclass once, change Themes once or add a Townie profession once (some Townies are not appropriate for PCs). Each will add training time to the PC's age.

~The GM prefers no evil characters and no evil classes. Some themes will let you take abilities from the evil classes, however.

Robyo wrote:Dan, I will have to research it, but off the cuff, I'd say yes, you can use throwing stars for Trip and Disarm.

Too late to join a faction, since we've started rolling. Maybe it's something Monk can try to do between adventures.

Robyo wrote:Dan, I will have to research it, but off the cuff, I'd say yes, you can use throwing stars for Trip and Disarm.

Too late to join a faction, since we've started rolling. Maybe it's something Monk can try to do between adventures.

Robyo wrote:Dan, I will have to research it, but off the cuff, I'd say yes, you can use throwing stars for Trip and Disarm.

Chirs2 wrote:

Robyo wrote:Dan, I will have to research it, but off the cuff, I'd say yes, you can use throwing stars for Trip and Disarm.

just my .02c's.....  I don't think a "ranged" trip or disarm is gamebreaking, since there both ranged trips and ranged disarms already built into Radiance.  However, the things that do those are not regular "damage causing" weapons.  (Bolo, Grease spell, Command spell, etc)

Looking at it in the light most favorable to Dan.....

I would think that if a shuriken were used in this way, it would not cause it's normal weapon damage, just the desired effect if successful.  The Trip does damage from falling to the ground.  The shuriken WOULD target the weapon and knock it out of someone's hand, not cause damage by hitting their wrist.

However, as a Gunslinger, I would protest and suggest that he has to take an Intermediate level ability, per condition (trip, disarm, slow, etc) to use a star in this way.  A Gunslinger has the following abilities, all at Intermediate level, which are similar to what Dan is asking for.

Robyo wrote:It should work fine. I agree with Chris that a character should opt out of dealing damage, when trying to use a combat maneuver instead.