Between a rock-gut and a stone palace

**Chris** Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:33 pm

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Chris Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:33 pm

Whitey wrote:Not really, both Mike & Marvin are having a hard time tracking all this, but no matter. The question stands though: while we’re shielded by the non-detection spell, is there a way we can we find the Hags or Beholder in the dream world?

No, not that you are aware of. You are either shielded from the Beholder's dreams or not.

You may find a way once you get to the end of the dungeon Wink

**navyik** Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:49 pm

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navyik Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:49 pm

Warhol will have to remove his attunement from an item. Does anyone want to attune to his wand of web? It requires concentration, which is why he hasn’t used it in a fight. Would be cool if someone can use it and not just keep it tucked away.

**Chris** Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:52 pm

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Chris Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:52 pm

Let me try to explain the storyline again, as I clearly haven't done a good job of it. I apologize and I know my plots get convoluted. drunken

The whole story idea comes from me reading the Beholder's "warp reality" regional effects, the Elder Brain's "creature sense" and the Hags "Nightmare Haunting" abilities.

backstory + plot:

The Beholder lives in the tower. He warps reality in a 1 mile radius when he dreams.

The EB, Hags and Nightmare druids decided to work together and combine their powers. The NDs link everything via their dream powers. The hags give the beholder bad dreams. The EB extends the Beholder's range to 5 mi and amplifies its dreaming powers.

So lots of beholder-inspired monsters (carrion crawlers with extra eyes, emotional monsters, etc) pour out of the tower and attack the underdark, specifically the Dawi.

The Nightmare Haunting is also draining 5 HP per day from the Beholder and if\when it dies in its dream, it becomes a Death Tyrant.

current events, after chapter 1:

The party has been helping their friends, the Dawi. They have now found out "what is going on" and are headed to deal with it. The Arcane Tower is the big dungeon (3 levels) and chapter 2. The Mindflayers are level 1 on the outside. The Hags are level 2 and the nightmare druids are level 3.

mechanics of dungeon crawl and chapter 2:

if you don't kill the EB (you just sneak past it) you won't be able to long rest, because it will sense you in the tower and send enemies to interrupt your long rest.

assuming you kill the EB, if\when you do long rest, your 8hr non-detection will wear off and you will be dealing with the hags in the dreaming. maybe you want this or maybe you don't, that's up to you.

in the end, you have to choose to either fight the beholder in the waking world or fight the nightmare druids in the dream world. again, up to you.

body rob, search for treasure, lots of drinking with dwarves, etc etc

Whitey Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:39 pm

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Whitey Tue Nov 01, 2022 3:39 pm

That helps tremendously. Why, though, would we fight the Beholder if we’ve just freed it? Wouldn’t it be grateful to us?

**Chris** Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:28 pm

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Chris Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:28 pm

Whitey wrote:That helps tremendously. Why, though, would we fight the Beholder if we’ve just freed it? Wouldn’t it be grateful to us?

That's a fair point and not necessarily what I would expect, but it is an option. Beholders are evil monsters, so one way to deal with the problem is to remove the Beholder. Then the druids are also defeated, in effect.

Maybe you want the arcane tower for yourselves?
Maybe you would rather fight a Beholder than a bunch of druids, in their grove (home field advantage)?
Maybe you think it will help the Dawi more overall to be free of the Beholder?
Maybe you want to try and trade the arcane tower control to the Dawi for some epic magic items from their forge?
Maybe you just hate Beholders?

I don't know, players do weird shit sometimes drunken

**navyik** Tue Nov 01, 2022 5:16 pm

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navyik Tue Nov 01, 2022 5:16 pm

What is the benefit of the arcane tower to it’s possessor?
Arcana +guidance
Result of the throw of dice "1d20 +1d4 +10" :

14 + 1 + 10 = 25

**Chris** Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:27 pm

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Chris Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:27 pm

navyik wrote:What is the benefit of the arcane tower to it’s possessor?
Arcana +guidance
Result of the throw of dice "1d20 +1d4 +10" :

14 + 1 + 10 = 25

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whit10 Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:28 pm

take out the Beholder and take the tower for ourselves doesn't sound like a bad idea at all. Then we can ignore the damned druids

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Whitey Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:38 pm

Chris wrote:

I don't know, players do weird shit sometimes

It do be like that sometimes.

Marvin turns to the Mind Flayer “so first up is the Elder Brain. Any advice on how to beat it? If we’re brain shielded by the spell we should be able to get the drop on it, right?”

**Chris** Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:44 pm

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Chris Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:44 pm

Whitey wrote:

Chris wrote:

I don't know, players do weird shit sometimes

It do be like that sometimes.

Marvin turns to the Mind Flayer “so first up is the Elder Brain. Any advice on how to beat it? If we’re brain shielded by the spell we should be able to get the drop on it, right?”

Qhu beams with pride at the thought of helping defeat an elder brain, "Non detection blocks several of its abilities, so that is your best defense. It is large, slow and VERY easy to hit with weapons. It is highly resistant to all magic. It has 2 dangerous attacks, the worst is a psionic blast that can stun like all lesser mindflayers and grappling tentacles with a long reach. It is a formidable opponent and not to be underestimated!"

**navyik** Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:07 pm

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navyik Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:07 pm

“Whisp, who used to occupy the tower? Is the Beholder it’s rightful occupant?”

Warhol turns to his trusted comrades. “In the last couple weeks we’ve befriended an old enemy, liberated goblins who were oppressed by a demon, and met an Illithid that isn’t trying to eat our brains. What’s to say a Beholder can’t benevolently occupy an arcane tower?”

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Whitey Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:57 am

Marvin likes the idea of plugging some arrows into this brain thing from a distance. He turns to Qhu with another question “Does it live by itself? Or will there be others around it?”

**navyik** Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:21 am

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navyik Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:21 am

“Is the psionic blast targeted or an area blast?”

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Chris Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:12 am

navyik wrote:“Whisp, who used to occupy the tower? Is the Beholder it’s rightful occupant?”

Warhol turns to his trusted comrades. “In the last couple weeks we’ve befriended an old enemy, liberated goblins who were oppressed by a demon, and met an Illithid that isn’t trying to eat our brains. What’s to say a Beholder can’t benevolently occupy an arcane tower?”

backstory! from Whisp's account

Chris wrote:

Fact number one - the nearby Arcane Tower of Plake Sniskin was inhabited by a Beholder named Zormoxiph many years ago. I was on a research sabbatical to study its impact on the nearby regions of the Underdark.

Whitey wrote:Marvin likes the idea of plugging some arrows into this brain thing from a distance. He turns to Qhu with another question “Does it live by itself? Or will there be others around it?”

also from Whisp

Chris wrote:
Fact three - an Elder Brain and small colony of Mindflayers arrived in the area around the tower a little over a week ago.

mindflayers, intellect devourers, etc

navyik wrote:“Is the psionic blast targeted or an area blast?”

uh... yes

Mind Blast - Recharge XXX. The elder brain magically emits psychic energy. Creatures of the elder brain's choice within 60 feet of it must succeed on a XXXXXX psychic damage and be stunned for 1 minute. A target can repeat the saving throw at the end of each of its turns, ending the effect on itself on a success.

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Whitey Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:32 pm

“Welp, let’s go kill us a brain fellas.” Marvin gets his sleep, gears up and gets ready to march.

**navyik** Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:17 pm

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navyik Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:17 pm

“We gotta try to get this guy alone. Draw out any minions. I can’t execute crowd control and buff our resistance to mental attacks at the same time. The books in The Kings Library talked about setting up a redoubt when advancing on an enemy. A place you can regroup and draw out and trap overextended skirmishers.”

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Whitey Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:31 pm

“If you guys can keep them occupied I can sneak past and take out the big brain before he knows I’m there…I think”

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whit10 Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:13 pm

Too bad Vasyli can't get that Brooch of Mind Shielding created for someone tonight. So be it... let's go kill a brain!!

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Whitey Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:41 pm

Marvin thinks he can get six arrows into the brain if he can Surprise him, then use Action Surge, before the brain can go. W/ all his damage buffs (and assuming he wins initiative and hits all shots) that’s 18d6 + 6d4 + 3d8 +42, (69-198). If that doesn’t drop it Marvin is probably toast

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navyik Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:29 pm

Whitey wrote:Marvin thinks he can get six arrows into the brain if he can Surprise him, then use Action Surge, before the brain can go. W/ all his damage buffs (and assuming he wins initiative and hits all shots) that’s 18d6 + 6d4 + 3d8 +42, (69-198). If that doesn’t drop it Marvin is probably toast

“We go together but you go first.

I can make us all sneaky.”

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Chris Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:51 pm

Whitey wrote:Marvin thinks he can get six arrows into the brain if he can Surprise him, then use Action Surge, before the brain can go. W/ all his damage buffs (and assuming he wins initiative and hits all shots) that’s 18d6 + 6d4 + 3d8 +42, (69-198). If that doesn’t drop it Marvin is probably toast

Oh good grief!

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Whitey Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:00 pm

Chris wrote:

Whitey wrote:Marvin thinks he can get six arrows into the brain if he can Surprise him, then use Action Surge, before the brain can go. W/ all his damage buffs (and assuming he wins initiative and hits all shots) that’s 18d6 + 6d4 + 3d8 +42, (69-198). If that doesn’t drop it Marvin is probably toast

Oh good grief!

Just wait until next level when the Arcane Archer buffs take effect

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Chris Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:10 am

Whitey wrote:

Chris wrote:

Whitey wrote:Marvin thinks he can get six arrows into the brain if he can Surprise him, then use Action Surge, before the brain can go. W/ all his damage buffs (and assuming he wins initiative and hits all shots) that’s 18d6 + 6d4 + 3d8 +42, (69-198). If that doesn’t drop it Marvin is probably toast

Oh good grief!

Just wait until next level when the Arcane Archer buffs take effect

Luckily I will be back on Marvin's side by then lol!

Chapter 2 begins!

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