The end of the line

Hearing JT's response, Louis runs for his life down the access tunnel. Gaspard shakes his head slightly.."eeh was always a bit of a coward. I am soldier, I will help you for freeing my mind" (he reloads his rifle with a full stripper clip).

The dust has settled in the tunnel, you can see that it goes on for roughly 100'. There is only a pin-prick of light at the end.... as you get about 30' feet down the tunnel, JT's Trap Sense serves him well.. the next stone block on the floor is trapped!


(Gaspard is directly behind JT, I tried to use a similar order from the last tunnel. Please let me know if you prefer to be in a different spot. JT's position marks the extend of "safe" passage)

JT holds a fist in the air to "stop" the party's advance. JT points to the floor tile in front of him. He carefully removes his tools and begins the delicate work of disarming the trap....

Disable Device +15 + 3 vs traps (rogue)
Roll(1d20)+18:
14,+18
Total:32

lol.. I can't get a trap past you man... it's disarmed. To sort of speed this along, you can tell that the next 25' are trapped at 5' intervals (it appears to be a floor 'scythe' trap, a blade comes up and does bad things to people) you will have four more checks to make.

whit10 wrote:lol.. I can't get a trap past you man...  it's disarmed.  To sort of speed this along, you can tell that the next 25' are trapped at 5' intervals (it appears to be a floor 'scythe' trap, a blade comes up and does bad things to people)  you will have four more checks to make.

LOL - that's the point of maxing out the skills, DD is also fairly forgiving, since I can miss by 5 and still reroll without exploding it

ok, 4 checks

Roll(1d20)+18:
19,+18
Total:37

Roll(1d20)+18:
10,+18
Total:28

Roll(1d20)+18:
4,+18
Total:22

Roll(1d20)+18:
12,+18
Total:30

ah! You missed the third one (but you can re-roll as you only missed it by 'that much')

Yeah, the traps Rules leave a bit to be desired as well. Oh well.

Roll(1d20)+18:
1,+18
Total:19

JT finally blew a roll

Reflex save vs traps 11+2 (traps)
Roll(1d20)+13:
17,+13
Total:30

ah, ok then... you missed that one and it automatically resets... a blade springs forth, narrowly missing your leg (successful Reflex save)... everyone will have to negotiate that trap as it cannot be disabled.

I'll still count your roll for the last one.

Please tell me how each character plans to get past that trap (or just roll your Reflex save)

Gaspard, being a rather brave sort, will just follow you past the blade...

Reflex Save:

Roll(1d20)+9:
15,+9
Total:24

He just makes it.

whit10 wrote:ah, ok then... you missed that one and it automatically resets... a blade springs forth, narrowly missing your leg (successful Reflex save)... everyone will have to negotiate that trap as it cannot be disabled.

JT will use his MW Climber kit, which includes

These crampons, pitons, ropes, and other tools give you a +2 circumstance bonus on Climb checks.




JT will climb up the wall

Roll(1d20)+15:
16,+15
Total:31

and hammer 2-3 pitons into the stone ceiling, as needed



JT will tie a rope between the pitons of enough length to allow the rest of the party to pass over the 5ft tile using the rope like monkey bars.   JT will leave enough slack on either side so they can climb up a couple feet of rope to reach the rope ladder.

Can you give me a Knowledge Engineering check on that please, and then a general Craft check (it will have a rather low DC). I think that takes care of what you're trying to do.

whit10 wrote:Can you give me a Knowledge Engineering check on that please, and then a general Craft check (it will have a rather low DC).  I think that takes care of what you're trying to do.

  HUH?

ok, sure... even though it has nothing to do with Engineering or Crafting?  That is a basic climbing technique - read the Climbing skill in PF

Make Your Own Handholds and Footholds: You can make your own handholds and footholds by pounding pitons into a wall. Doing so takes 1 minute per piton, and one piton is needed per 5 feet of distance. As with any surface that offers handholds and footholds, a wall with pitons in it has a DC of 15. In the same way, a climber with a handaxe or similar implement can cut handholds in an ice wall.

This is something that the Climb skill specifically allows JT to do.  It should be a DC 15 for the others to cross it with the +2 from the MW Climbing Kit.  That is why I linked the contents of kit, JT has everything he needs already (no crafting)

ah, in that case (thought I had seen that somewhere but forgot where it was...) nevermind the checks.

So everyone can make Climb checks or Reflex saves to try and get through that one trap.

Does it look like something CR can tumble through?

Possibly but I'd like to keep it to a Climb check or Reflex check. You can't normally use Acrobatics to get around a trap. JT has provided an alternative route, hence the Climb check.

navyik wrote:Does it look like something CR can tumble through?

maybe not through.... but you have a good idea, what about OVER?

if it is just a pressure plate on a 5 ft tile, would a simple Acrobatics (jump) check also work?

DC is just 5, the distance to be jumped

normally Acro doesn't get around traps, because you don't know they are there. is it any different than just jumping over a 5ft hole?

JT was kind enough to hang a rope, so Elliot will happily climb over the trap.

Climb check: 1d20 + 10 (13+10)=23

I would normally agree with Chris but, and I will need to review this to make sure, the Ninja has a very similar power to that which you have described. Light Steps allows you to do something like that but, in this case, I'd still argue that a Reflex save is the proper roll here... though JT has created an alternative.

Elliot makes his Climb check

Climb 13+6=19

CR III makes it over easily.

Please see my post in the last thread (The Tomb). It is the only retcon I will allow, as it was a mistake on my part.

The Colonel climbs as well -

Result of the throw of dice "1d20 +5" :

13 + 5 = 18

Olivia REFLEX Save: 9 + 6 = 15

I will post the new stuff tonight... last encounter is coming

You are all past the traps... the tunnel ends in 20'.

Perception checks please.

Olivia's Perception check: 11 + 19 = 30  

Detect Magic
Detect Undead

(both spells are still in effect I think)

Perception

Result of the throw of dice "1d20 +5" :

12 + 5 = 17

19 for unusual stonework

Unless something has a duration of 'hours' then it's no longer functioning. You guys were in the other tomb for a while.

perception
Roll(1d20)+17:
14,+17
Total:31

+3 traps
+2 stone

Will update tonight... no time for it at work

whit10 wrote:Unless something has a duration of 'hours' then it's no longer functioning.  You guys were in the other tomb for a while.

If we've been in there for hours, then Olivia would have taken a short rest. How many spells can she get back?

While I agree that there should be some sort of way to rest and get things back (and not have it take a full 8 hours rest)... I'm not changing a core rule mid-encounter. Not trying to be mean but it's going to have to be this way for now.

You guys have only been in the tomb for maybe an hour or so. The spells in question were cast roughly 10 minutes ago. They would have run out by now. That was all I was trying to say.

I will say this... the system for PF (D&D, etc.) has always been clear on how rest is done but it really does screw up casters. When I pick this campaign up again (which I had planned to) I will have some alternative rules that should alleviate this.

For now, it's going to have to be by the rules.

10-4 DM! It's your game

I agree with you... but this requires some thought. Chris has made the same point once or twice too.

I promise that, when we pick this up again, I will have thought up a solution.

There is a really good solution. Its called DnD 5e.
Seriously, The more I read/use it, the more I am convinced its the smoothest playing rule set out there. Pathfinder is the best version of 3.5 around but that is also its weakness, at heart it is still DnD 3.5.

But pardon my derailment, back to our regularly scheduled program....


Also - perfect meme ROB!

MAS wrote:There is a really good solution. Its called DnD 5e.
Seriously, The more I read/use it, the more I am convinced its the smoothest playing rule set out there. Pathfinder is the best version of 3.5 around but that is also its weakness, at heart it is still DnD 3.5.

But pardon my derailment, back to our regularly scheduled program....
Also - perfect meme ROB!

ShadowRun 4e is another great option (maybe not for fantasy, though it could be modified). There are no classes, no levels, no 'spells per day' or any of that nonsense. Cast as much as you can withstand the mental\physical strain (drain). Want low drain checks? cast lots of low powered (force) spells. Need to 'go ham' and nuke the enemy? cast at max force and feel the burn of physical damage drain, but you get the spell off!

and to piggy back on Matt's comment.... PF is the best 3.5, which was the best 3.X (Radiance, modern, SW, etc), which was the best 2e, which was the best AD&D, which was the best 'red box' original D&D. It has improved over time, but all d20 is still, at its core just a 'better' version of basic D&D. Gygax had some serious hang-ups on class balance, magic, race and core mechanics. Most of those issues are still present in PF, if to a lesser extent.

back to the tomb!

Apparently, some people seemed to have missed my comment from long ago... This particular gamer wants nothing, and I mean NOTHING, to do with WoC anymore.  In my personal opinion, they torpedoed their credibility with 4th edition.  I don't care if there's a 5th.  I don't recognize either of them (just like I don't recognize the JJ Abrahms Star Trek monstrosities or any of the Highlander sequels).

Shadowrun is a consideration but, as Chris is well aware, I'm not thrilled with it's system at the moment (it has just as many flaws IMO, just different ones).  It will be PF with a couple changes... unless you all don't want me to run this anymore after this encounter.  I won't take it personally, just let me know.

moving on...

Olivia and JT can hear faint chanting... (in Demotic Egyptian in anyone cares).... it grows as you get close to the end of the hall.

If anyone has a standard action that they would like to take, now is the time  (Gaspard looks a bit worried and chambers a round into his rifle).

whit10 wrote:Apparently, some people seemed to have missed my comment from long ago... This particular gamer wants nothing, and I mean NOTHING, to do with WoC anymore.  In my personal opinion, they torpedoed their credibility with 4th edition.  I don't care if there's a 5th.  I don't recognize either of them (just like I don't recognize the JJ Abrahms Star Trek monstrosities or any of the Highlander sequels).

Just stating a fact man... just stating a fact

whit10 wrote:A

Olivia and JT can hear faint chanting... (in Demotic Egyptian in anyone cares).... it grows as you get close to the end of the hall.

If anyone has a standard action that they would like to take, now is the time  (Gaspard looks a bit worried and chambers a round into his rifle).

I just need to sort out with Elliot who took what weapons. I suggested giving Elliot the machine gun with the flaming bullets, if JT could use the shocking sword, but it was never settled.

JT could also fill just his active magazine with the same .45 rounds in his hvy pistol too.

Settling this would determine what weapons JT is currently wielding.

pop potions if you got 'em (JT has none)

by all means, get that figured... I'm basically pausing everything here for a sec.

Ready, no actions needed.

ok then... I'll give it till tomorrow night at the latest (whenever I get home from work/happy hour) and post the final encounter

So... You will, Josh, refuse to see the new starwars films coming out?

No. I will give them a chance. Robert "I'm an untalented hack" Orci won't be writing it so no issues... Abrahms only gets some of my nerd hate for his ST movies... the writers get more of it. lol

if we don't hear from Dan, I will suggest the following gear distribution

JT takes 1 clip of flaming rounds for his hvy .45 pistol
Elliot takes the machine gun with the rest of the flaming rounds, as he is primarily a shooter
JT takes the shocking sword for melee

if Dan logs in, then I am happy to do whatever he wants too, but if he doesn't then we have a plan to proceed

JT will be armed with the sword in 1 hand and his hvy pistol in the other.

JT will begin combat in stealth
Roll(1d20)+13:
7,+13
Total:20
+2 vs undead

Sounds good, I am as armed as I need to be.

Ok... (Dan can chime in with something if it's really important)

As you near the entrance, the chanting gets louder... though you can now hear clearly "defend your King!"

You enter the last great chamber of this tomb and you see three decaying mummies finishing pulling themselves out of their cracked and broken tombs.  Two figures (with a dead, rather familiar Frenchman at their feet)  look up at you... one you know as Anak Shep-Sut.  The other is the Pharaoh Thutmose III.  He looks at you with glowing red eyes and fangs dripping blood... it almost looks as though he is still regaining strength.  He holds a wicked looking Khopesh sword in his hands.  The room itself is similar to the last one, except that you can see everything that is in the room.


In front of you is another ramp that descends about 20'.  There is a small shaft on the ceiling (air vent, access tunnel?) and I have marked where a small amount of moonlight is coming in...

I placed everyone in accordance to the last comments about position.



INITIATIVE!!!

Initiative
Roll(1d20)+5:
19,+5
Total:24

JT whispers, "Anyone know if the moonlight is significant.... reflected sunlight maybe?"

Initiative 8+4=12 for CR3

Chris wrote:Initiative
Roll(1d20)+5:
19,+5
Total:24

JT whispers, "Anyone know if the moonlight is significant.... reflected sunlight maybe?"

GM - would a skill check have to occur on my action count at this point? I'd like to roll a know arcana/relegion to attempt an answer to JT's question.







CJC intiative:
Result of the throw of dice "1d20 +7" :

5 + 7 = 12

Go ahead and make the skill check.