Pt. 3: "Showdown at Biggs Ranch"

Robyo wrote:
Bossman attempts to grapple Auren:
28vsFort = Auren is grappled.
He shouts, "Sina, get back here! We're being raided! Sound the alarm!"

Auren is up...

I can't find a combat maneuvers section in the Radiance book, so I am just looking at the monk ability here:

Grapple: You grapple an adjacent foe up to 1 size larger when
you have 1 hand free and beat the foe’s Fortitude. A grappled creature
cannot move from its space and can only use a Light melee
weapon that is already in hand. Each round, you must expend a move
action to maintain the grapple, and the foe can try to beat your
Fortitude as a standard action to break the grapple.


do I get an attack of opportunity on him for grappling an armed opponent?

the way I am reading this is that after I am grappled, I can use a standard action to break free, then on his turn he can grapple me again, my turn I try to break free.... basically an unarmed guy can completely neutralize somebody armed with a sword.

Is that correct?
If so, does that make any sense? (for anyone not a monk, who counts unarmed = armed)

Can I attack him with my hands\headbutt\elbows?
do I have to drop my sword?

Do I have any other options?

just trying to figure out the options with grapple in Radiance.....

I am still looking for answers to above for general knowledge, but how about this for an action to keep the flow:

attempt to break his grapple with Athletics (I think that is right??)


athletics
Result of the throw of dice "1d20 +12" :

13 + 12 = 25

or if it is an attack, melee vs fort
same roll but +9 = 21

if that breaks free, Auren will mount High Dollar (good call Tommy-guns)

High Dollar will move next to Bossman and attempt clobber him with his hooves
2 attacks vs ?? reflex or fort

Result of the throw of dice "1d20 +5" :

11 + 5 = 16

if that hits, damage
Result of the throw of dice "2d6 +4" :

6 + 1 + 4 = 11

2nd attack
Result of the throw of dice "1d20 +5" :

18 + 5 = 23

damage if that hits
Result of the throw of dice "2d6 +4" :

4 + 6 + 4 = 14

whit10 wrote:Handle Animal:

Roll(1d20)+14:
6,+14
Total:20

Your mount takes no damage.

Concerning grappling:

~No opportunity attack against Biggs. It's a melee attack. Not just monks get to use grappling. Other classes have it too. An unarmed opponent can shut down an armed one, sometimes.

~You can't move, but you can use a standard action to try to break free. Basic melee attack vs Fort.

~You don't have to drop your sword, just cannot use it. A Light melee weapon (already in hand) only.

~You can try to punch, elbow, headbutt. It would be an unarmed strike (1d3+STR mod).

~Other options? There are always other options...

~No Athletics to break free. Just a basic unarmed attack (or whatever other ability you might have that could be helpful).

Chris wrote:melee vs fort
same roll but +9 = 21

if that breaks free, Auren will mount High Dollar (good call Tommy-guns)

Auren breaks free.
As Auren moves away to mount his horse, Bossman gets an opportunity attack. Grapple:
24vsFort: Auren is grappled again.

Robyo wrote:

Chris wrote:melee vs fort
same roll but +9 = 21

if that breaks free, Auren will mount High Dollar (good call Tommy-guns)

Auren breaks free.
As Auren moves away to mount his horse, Bossman gets an opportunity attack. Grapple:
24vsFort: Auren is grappled again.

grapple is a special ability, not a melee attack. I am not sure that counts for an AoO. an AoO is a single attack, not a full standard action, I believe

could a mage cast a spell as an AoO?

could I use Rapid Attack and take 2 swings during an AoO?

Then the door of the Watering Hole swings open. Sarge stands in the doorway and Bud and Lennie are behind him. Sarge calls out, "Boss, what's going on? Do you need any help?"


At that time, outside the front gate, a voice shouts sternly, "Listen up! Peace officers have arrived. We are coming in! Lay down your weapons and surrender. This is your only warning!"

Chris wrote:

Robyo wrote:

Chris wrote:melee vs fort
same roll but +9 = 21

if that breaks free, Auren will mount High Dollar (good call Tommy-guns)

Auren breaks free.
As Auren moves away to mount his horse, Bossman gets an opportunity attack. Grapple:
24vsFort: Auren is grappled again.

grapple is a special ability, not a melee attack. I am not sure that counts for an AoO. an AoO is a single attack, not a full standard action, I believe

could a mage cast a spell as an AoO?

could I use Rapid Attack and take 2 swings during an AoO?

I think an AoO can be an ability. Otherwise it's unfair to characters who rely on their abilities and don't use weapons (monk, mage, etc) There's no full-round actions. Only a divided round of: Standard, Move,(X3) Swift.

A mage could use shocking grasp, for instance.

Rapid Attack is also allowed.

Round 4:

Initiative:
1) Tommy
2) JP
3) Sina
4) Biggs
5) Mr Joffrey
6) Jethro
7) Henry
8 ) Marvin
9) Sarge
10) Lennie
11) Bud
12) Deputy Zyd
13) Sheriff Lundenberg
14) Deputy Derr
15) Auren


Tommy is up...

Robyo wrote:
I think an AoO can be an ability. Otherwise it's unfair to characters who rely on their abilities and don't use weapons (monk, mage, etc) There's no full-round actions. Only a divided round of: Standard, Move,(X3) Swift.

A mage could use shocking grasp, for instance.

Rapid Attack is also allowed.

Ok, good to know. That really expands on the ability of an AoO, which makes it more interesting.

Personally, I think this has great potential for abuse, but we will see how it plays out.

well, here goes...

Tommy will halt Goliath and keep his rifle aimed at the Bossman. "You got other friends comin' that you didn't tell us about, Marshall?"

"I'm a little busy here, Tommy, but it sounds like Zyd and Derr, I think. Ya mind shootin the fat bastard that keeps squeezing my nuts?"

Auren wonders to himself where someone like Biggs learned Turkish oil wrestling.....

I think that's a held action on my part so Rob will have to let me know when to go.

whit10 wrote:I think that's a held action on my part so Rob will have to let me know when to go.

You hold your action?
Okay, then JP is up...

Jp shoots twice and misses. He drops the revolver and walks into the building closest to him. Once inside he will likeky take a bit of cover. Will wait to see whats in there.
K-13ish?

JP runs up the steps into the house.

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Sina rides back to P-21, blowing on a whistle that dangles from her neck. She shoots twice:
1)at Tommy: 27vsRef = 19 damage
2)at Goliath:24vsRef = 17 damage
*Josh, if you wish to use Mounted Combat, decide which shot you'd like to try the maneuver and roll Handle Animal...


"Stay where you're at, Sarge," the Bossman calls back. "I can handle this!" Biggs grips the marshal in a bear hug like a vice. He growls into Auren's ear, "So dragonborn, you think you can come onto my land and try to arrest me? Wantonly kill my men with no warrant and no probable cause? You're a puny weakling. A little snake with a tin star. I'll show you what it means to be a man!"
Humiliate:
18vsFort (Auren resists, thus only takes half damage) = 8 Vitality and 1 Wound. Auren also bursts into tears and soils himself (seriously, it's part of the ability).


Mr. Joffrey watches JP's eidolon run into the house. He turns back to the gate and gazes at the lawmen outside. "Curses! Things are getting out of hand. It seems our contract with the ruffian Biggs is coming to an end." He pulls a device out from his pocket and it looks like a remote control. He turns to Jethro and says, "You're worthless. I will find another enforcer." Mr. Joffrey pushes a button on the device and disappears in a flash of orange light.


"Master, don't leave me!" Jethro cries out, but Mr Joffrey is gone. He raises his enchanted rifle and shoots twice at the lawmen outside the gate:
1)at Zyd: 30vsRef = 33 damage, Zyd is dead.
2)at Derr: 24vsRef = 26 damage, Derr is dead.
Then he runs directly towards Sheriff Lundenberg.


Henry stays where he's at on his wagon, armed with a shotgun.


Marvin loses morale. It seems that a specter walking through his horse, a disappearing Mr Joffrey, and the lawmen raiding the compound is just too much for his young blood. He kicks his heels into his horse and charges back down the road towards the stable.


"Whatevery you say, Boss," answers Sarge. He, along with Lennie and Bud, hold their actions. They stay at the doorway of the Watering Hole.


Sheriff Lundenberg shoots twice at Jethro who is charging at him:
1) 19vsRef = miss!
2) 7vsRef = miss!
"Confound it! I should've stayed in Payson," he mutters.


Auren is up...

Robyo wrote:
"Stay where you're at, Sarge," the Bossman calls back. "I can handle this!" Biggs grips the marshal in a bear hug like a vice. He growls into Auren's ear, "So dragonborn, you think you can come onto my land and try to arrest me? Wantonly kill my men with no warrant and no probable cause? You're a puny weakling. A little snake with a tin star. I'll show you what it means to be a man!"
Humiliate:
18vsFort (Auren resists, thus only takes half damage) = 8 Vitality and 1 Wound. Auren also bursts into tears and soils himself (seriously, it's part of the ability).

Auren is up...

Sobbing and blubbering like hatchling Auren replies, "It's... it's called a Warrantless Affadavit... you.... fat... lying...." Auren gathers his wits and courage and attempts to head butt Mr. Biggs, though he kinda feels sorry for hitting a guy with his greathelm in the face.

Move action = combat focus +2
Rapid Attack = -2
Swift Action = Power attack -2\+5

Result of the throw of dice "1d20 +7" :

6 + 7 = 13

if that hits
damage
Result of the throw of dice "1d3 +15" :

1 + 15 = 16 +5 vs evil aligned

2nd head butt
Result of the throw of dice "1d20 +7" :

20 + 7 = 27

max damage is 18 +5 vs evil aligned, no DR

Greathelms - more than just medieval style! At least the others can't see Auren crying behind his faceplate

not that it'll matter but I'll roll against the first one.

Roll(1d20)+14:
14,+14
Total:28

The second shot takes Tommy to wounded... at least this will all be over soon.

since reloading this rifle is a swift action, I figure that I can do rapid shot with it as well (just ignore the second shot if you reason otherwise)

Shooting at Sina

Roll(1d20)+8:
7,+8
Total:15

Shit, that's a miss.

Roll(1d20)+8:
13,+8
Total:21

Not sure on that one.

Damage:?
Roll(2d12)+5:
11,10,+5
Total:26

Sorry to interrupt - I posted a summary about getting on board with the campaign and wanted to make certain it doesn't go unnoticed.

"Quick Summary please" thread above this one.

Now back to your regularly scheduled gunfight!

MAS wrote:Sorry to interrupt - I posted a summary about getting on board with the campaign and wanted to make certain it doesn't go unnoticed.

"Quick Summary please" thread above this one.

Now back to your regularly scheduled gunfight!

summary - uh.... shit got rough, real quick and players were over-ambitiously dumb by riding straight into this area's main boss' base camp. total party wipe approaching in 3....2....

might as well wait for the reset, which will be after a break for my Star Wars, the Old Republic story (a take-a-break story for in between party death... er I mean chapters in WWW wild weird west)

get some popcorn and a beer

LOL!!!!! Awesome!

TPK keeps players honest!

SO I guess I should be looking at Star wars stuff....?

yup, just look for the big banner and check out the history, house rules, etc

feel free to post questions there

TPK keeps players honest my ass! TPKs only denote one of two things: 1) the players were dumb and should have run or figured a different way to resolve the encounter or 2) the GM is being a hard-ass.

My vote for this fight is far more the former than the later.

Unless jp sees something particularly interestingly odd in the house he will merely cruise through looking casually for a weapon or something helpful for the immediate danger. Absent that he will just pop out the other side at the back porch?

Perception 13+21=34

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Chris wrote:Sobbing and blubbering like hatchling Auren replies, "It's... it's called a Warrantless Affadavit... you.... fat... lying...." Auren gathers his wits and courage and attempts to head butt Mr. Biggs, though he kinda feels sorry for hitting a guy with his greathelm in the face.

Move action = combat focus +2
Rapid Attack = -2
Swift Action = Power attack -2\+5

Result of the throw of dice "1d20 +7" :

6 + 7 = 13

if that hits
damage
Result of the throw of dice "1d3 +15" :

1 + 15 = 16 +5 vs evil aligned

2nd head butt
Result of the throw of dice "1d20 +7" :

20 + 7 = 27

max damage is 18 +5 vs evil aligned, no DR

Greathelms - more than just medieval style! At least the others can't see Auren crying behind his faceplate

First headbutt was a miss. How are you computing damage? Basic unarmed strike is 1d3,+STR mod,+5 Power Attack.

whit10 wrote:not that it'll matter but I'll roll against the first one.

Roll(1d20)+14:
14,+14
Total:28

The second shot takes Tommy to wounded... at least this will all be over soon.

First shot was at Tommy, second was at Goliath. You can decide who gets shielded and who takes a hit.

whit10 wrote:since reloading this rifle is a swift action, I figure that I can do rapid shot with it as well (just ignore the second shot if you reason otherwise)

Shooting at Sina

Roll(1d20)+8:
7,+8
Total:15

Shit, that's a miss.

Roll(1d20)+8:
13,+8
Total:21

Not sure on that one.

Damage:?
Roll(2d12)+5:
11,10,+5
Total:26

Second shot hits Sina. She takes it like a champ.

navyik wrote:Unless jp sees something particularly interestingly odd in the house he will merely cruise through looking casually for a weapon or something helpful for the immediate danger. Absent that he will just pop out the other side at the back porch?

Perception 13+21=34

Inside the house, JP finds:
NW corner: Desk and chair with papers, ink bottle, and quill.
SW corner: Crates and Barrels of supplies.
NE corner: Fireplace (unused)
SE corner: A round table (empty) and chair.

A door separates the room from a stairwell. The stairs go up (bedrooms) and down (celler).

Perception check reveals: Grog's cursing voice echoes from the cellar. "By Grungar, the only way to fight black magic is with more black magic!" JP also hears the clatter of him rummaging through stuff.

Sarge, Lennie, and Bud skip their actions, waiting to see the outcome of the brawl.

Marvin has skedaddled north, riding away.

A mysterious figure is seen walking up the road. He's heard the raid and has come to investigate.


Round 5:

Initiative;
1) Tommy
2) JP
3) Sina
4) Bossman
5) Jethro
6) Henry
7) Sarge
8 ) Lennie
9) Bud
10) Sheriff Lundenberg
11) Auren
12) Jack Stone

*Matt is welcome to jump in. Otherwise, I'll play Jack Stone. He has come to Biggs Ranch, investigating the rumors of strange happenings occurring there.


Tommy is up...

Robyo wrote:
First headbutt was a miss. How are you computing damage? Basic unarmed strike is 1d3,+STR mod,+5 Power Attack.

1d3 + 5 str, + 5 blessed wpn, +5 power attack = 18 + 5 if Bossman is evil aligned

unless I am misinterpreting it, I get that bonus for any melee attack. the other two, from fighter and martialist are wpn specific (greatsword), the Paladin one is any melee

I've already noted the damage to Tommy and I hate ret-cons. Would a quick dismount be a swift or move action? I know I'd prob have to roll.

Chris wrote:

Robyo wrote:
First headbutt was a miss. How are you computing damage? Basic unarmed strike is 1d3,+STR mod,+5 Power Attack.

1d3 + 5 str, + 5 blessed wpn, +5 power attack = 18 + 5 if Bossman is evil aligned

unless I am misinterpreting it, I get that bonus for any melee attack. the other two, from fighter and martialist are wpn specific (greatsword), the Paladin one is any melee

Okay, I'll allow it. Great Helm isn't usually considered a weapon, but I guess it can be so in a dirty fight!

Auren's headbutt connects with Biggs' face and teeth fly out of the ruffian's mouth. He gurgles on blood, trying to say something, then loosens his grip. Norman "The Bossman" Biggs slides to the ground dead.

whit10 wrote:I've already noted the damage to Tommy and I hate ret-cons. Would a quick dismount be a swift or move action? I know I'd prob have to roll.

Unless you have a special ability, it's normally a move action to mount/unmount a horse.

Robyo wrote:
Okay, I'll allow it. Great Helm isn't usually considered a weapon, but I guess it can be so in a dirty fight!

Auren's headbutt connects with Biggs' face and teeth fly out of the ruffian's mouth. He gurgles on blood, trying to say something, then loosens his grip. Norman "The Bossman" Biggs slides to the ground dead.

cool! I figured I owed him a dirty blow.... Auren still needs to wipe his tail.

Auren calls up to Sarge, Lenny and Bud, "You men are in no trouble right now and should head back inside, unless you want to help your Marshall."

shoot at Jethro twice.

Roll(1d20)+8:
12,+8
Total:20

Roll(1d20)+8:
8,+8
Total:16

Damage on the first one (if that hits)

Roll(2d12)+5:
6,12,+5
Total:23


That second shot.... I'm using Heroic Mien with that and re-rolling it.

Roll(1d20)+8:
2,+8
Total:10

fuck it

whit10 wrote:shoot at Jethro twice.

Roll(1d20)+8:
12,+8
Total:20

Roll(1d20)+8:
8,+8
Total:16

Damage on the first one (if that hits)

Roll(2d12)+5:
6,12,+5
Total:23


That second shot.... I'm using Heroic Mien with that and re-rolling it.

Roll(1d20)+8:
2,+8
Total:10

fuck it

Did you mean Sina? Jethro is at the front gate and is out-of-sight and probably out of range?

shit... sorry bout that, yeah, sina

Tommy's first shot connects and Sina slumps formard. She collapses off her horse, dead.


JP is up...

Robyo wrote:Tommy's first shot connects and Sina slumps formard. She collapses off her horse, dead.


JP is up...

nice shootin pardner

nice job with the baddies, mr GM, they vary widely in poweer, but we didn't know who was tough and who was weak until it started.

Chris wrote:

Robyo wrote:Tommy's first shot connects and Sina slumps formard. She collapses off her horse, dead.


JP is up...

nice shootin pardner

nice job with the baddies, mr GM, they vary widely in poweer, but we didn't know who was tough and who was weak until it started.

Thank you, sir! But the fight's not over quite yet. Hope we can still get JP to chime in.
I also put Jack Stone on the initiative roster, though you guys probably scared Matt away.

Robyo wrote:
But the fight's not over quite yet.
I also put Jack Stone on the initiative roster, though you guys probably scared Matt away.

definitely not over yet, the guy with the biggest gun is left. at our current state, this is one of those times to fight smarter.... or start looking for some d6's.

Chris wrote:

Robyo wrote:
But the fight's not over quite yet.
I also put Jack Stone on the initiative roster, though you guys probably scared Matt away.

definitely not over yet, the guy with the biggest gun is left. at our current state, this is one of those times to fight smarter.... or start looking for some d6's.

Big gun you speak of: do you mean Jethro (mark II)? Yes, he's a baddie. When I built him, I had not expected him to have such a knack for one-round kills! Sometimes you've gotta blame the dice. I knew he was powerful (Mr. Joffrey too), but I also thought JP might surrender (at least, I gave him the option). Then later, Jethro killed the two deputies in one round. And I seriously thought Derr and Zyd might have made more of impact! At least they made Mr. Joffrey revise his plans and flee the scene.

yeah, Jethro. my poor deputies

I have gotten a bit confused on names, but I did mean the "one hit wonder" with the rifle. I am waiting for this moment:

Jack Stone, man of mystery, approaches the Biggs ranch, casting a long shadow up the road

Jethro, sees dark profile approaching, takes 2 shots

hit 33 damage
hit 28 damage

Jack Stone dies before his first action

Jp will sneal over to grok and peer casually over groks shoulder to see what hes looking for. (Move) " Ah seenk zee bahd guiees weez blahk mahjeek nahda cgommehn..." (swift)
Stealth 11+9=20 (+any incorporeal bonuses?)
Ready telekenetic (standard) action to slam shut whatever he is digging through if he responds with sudden move.

Chris wrote:yeah, Jethro. my poor deputies

I have gotten a bit confused on names, but I did mean the "one hit wonder" with the rifle. I am waiting for this moment:

Jack Stone, man of mystery, approaches the Biggs ranch, casting a long shadow up the road

Jethro, sees dark profile approaching, takes 2 shots

hit 33 damage
hit 28 damage

Jack Stone dies before his first action

nice!

navyik wrote:Jp will sneal over to grok and peer casually over groks shoulder to see what hes looking for. (Move) " Ah seenk zee bahd guiees weez blahk mahjeek nahda cgommehn..." (swift)
Stealth 11+9=20 (+any incorporeal bonuses?)
Ready telekenetic (standard) action to slam shut whatever he is digging through if he responds with sudden move.

JP sneaks downstairs (+5 incorporeal bonus to Stealth and Perception).

The cellar is huge. It appears to be a gigantic underground storage chamber. All around are crates and barrels and weapons. In one corner, there are a few workbenches with tools strewn about. Two large tunnels lead off in either direction.

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It is also covered with glowing blue runes. The gun it holds appears to be of the Gatling variety.

Grog is in the cockpit, holding a wrench and a hammer. He is banging away at the console, trying to make it operate. Cursing loudly, he doesn't seem to notice JP.

Jethro swings his rifle at Sheriff Lundenberg, smacking him in the shoulder. The sheriff falls to the ground, stunned. "You have something I need," Jethro says to him, reaching out his hand to the sheriff.


Henry stays where he's at, still playing sentinel.


"You killed the Bossman!" exclaims Sarge. There are whispers from behind him. All three (Sarge, Lennie, and Bud) discuss their options. "Alright, marshal," Sarge calls out. "Looks like we're in need of new work. You heard of any available for some honest gun hands?"


Sheriff Lundenberg is stunned. He drops his rifle and can take no actions this round.


Auren is up...