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    Post  Josef909 Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:07 pm

    MAS wrote:
    Josef909 wrote:Late to the theory/party-building convoy, but I would really like to see what a lore bard does at higher levels.  Playing Gaston in Robs earlier game was blue balls.  I could find anything to play and have fun, but that extra bit of healing and versatility would do well for a group.

    Agreed, I've always wanted to see higher level bard at work. Its a really underappreciated/under used class in the circles I've played, so have never seen anyone swing for the fences with it. What level do you think Bard gets its legs?

    Really takes off at 10, but starting at 9 would be a nice chance to play pre and post-legs.

    I wouldn't be averse to trying out a higher level rogue or monk either.
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    Post  navyik Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:40 pm

    I did mention wizard or rogue, but I am currently endearing to “break” the barbarian class or make a bugbear whose reach establishes melee supremacy. (Missing the combat reflexes feat from 3.5).

    But maybe I could bring back The Blue Avenger for a hack and slash...
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    Post  whit10 Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:04 pm

    high level Rogues are just awesome Joe. I really like playing Sam right now
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    Post  navyik Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:52 pm

    Looking at how “major” and “minor” items are defined, I am wondering whether these are per hoards or per character or per total party treasure?
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    Post  Chris Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:37 pm

    navyik wrote:Looking at how “major” and “minor” items are defined, I am wondering whether these are per hoards or per character or per total party treasure?

    the numbers I posted from XGE are the total party, unless I am misreading it

    Robyo wrote:
    Chris/DM: Is there a non-metal substitute for Heavy Armor? Like dragonscale or dinosaurscale? Being a life domain cleric, Shaun is proficient in hvy armor, but druids can only wear nonmetal.

    scratch am I the GM? That's a good question that we haven't addressed yet - starting GM.

    I am happy to be the first GM. If so, I won't worry so much about a starting character drunken
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    Post  Chris Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:39 pm

    Chris wrote:just jotting down the ideas mentioned. obviously, nobody is locked into anything, but just to keep a running tab....



    Matt
    - bugbear control fighter
    - artificer damage\control
    - super tanky tank


    Rob
    - Cleric of Life healbot
    - Necro support
    - Lore Bard or Druid: Circle of Spores

    - Cleric of Life + Circle of Spores


    Joe
    - Lore Bard support\control
    - Rogue
    - Monk

    Chris
    - melee bully barbarian
    - CoL or Glamour bard heals\support
    - arcane blaster\control

    Josh
    - Warlock
    - Tempest Cleric
    - undead a cold day in hell before I play anything "Klingon" fighter\mage\thief that masquerades by day as a french pastry chef

    Alan
    - Blue Avenger goblin super hero that somehow does 84d6 damage as a bonus action
    - Wizard
    - Rogue
    - DPS Barbarian
    - Bugbear melee control

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    Post  Chris Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:41 pm

    Josef909 wrote:
    I wouldn't be averse to trying out a higher level rogue or monk either.

    A Criminal Monk could probably cover trap duties almost as well as a Rogue (minus the Expertise perks)

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    Post  Josef909 Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:07 pm

    Added bonus of a mechanic I've never used in Ki points. I honestly think I'd have fun playing any class in this game.
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    Post  Chris Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:57 pm

    navyik wrote: I am currently endearing to “break” the barbarian class

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZFVPbekUFk


    here ya go... Naked Halfling Dexterity Barbarian Ultimate Tank Build lol!
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    Post  navyik Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:22 pm

    Tortle paladin. Also naked... be intimidated.
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    Post  navyik Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:45 pm

    Chris wrote:
    Josef909 wrote:
    I wouldn't be averse to trying out a higher level rogue or monk either.

    A Criminal Monk could probably cover trap duties almost as well as a Rogue (minus the Expertise perks)


    My rogue is actually a ranger with thieves tools.
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    Post  MAS Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:37 pm

    Chris wrote:
    navyik wrote: I am currently endearing to “break” the barbarian class

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZFVPbekUFk


    here ya go...  Naked Halfling Dexterity Barbarian Ultimate Tank Build  lol!

    Thats a great build!
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    Post  Chris Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:19 pm

    just something to keep in mind....


    you can only use 1 method of calculating your AC



    so a Tortle monk or barb can only have 17 AC + DEX but does not get to add CON or WIS

    a monk\barbarian (renda) does not get to add both CON and WIS along with DEX, as that is using 2 methods of armor calculation, 1 from each class.



    also, please read the multi-class rules carefully! especially with regards to starting abilities, you don't just get everything from each class.

    also, also - multi-classes with spell casting ability in both classes plays very differently to any other version of d&d or pathfinder.


    all this is in the PHB study
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    Post  MAS Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:02 pm

    Chris wrote:

    a monk\barbarian  (renda) does not get to add both CON and WIS along with DEX, as that is using 2 methods of armor calculation, 1 from each class.  


    Point well made.

    Ill double check the numbers to ensure compliance, Otherwise I've been building with the 5e character builder app which helps avoid potential multiclassing confusion.

    FYI to everyone, my phone is down and I cannot receive calls or text, email is the most reliable way to reach me right now for non game comms.
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    Post  Chris Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:08 pm

    @Matt - I did not know that when the build was made for Pirates. Anthony is the one that busted me on it recently when I was looking at Tortle Barb for the ToA lol!
    I wasn't suggesting you change now, just pointing it out for future compliance.

    Anthony also correctly educated me that Initiative is an ability check

    I am getting pencil whooped by a Carbone. I apologize to all, I now know the feeling
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    Post  navyik Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:14 pm

    I looked at tortle barb and found the same limitation against combining multiple AC calculations. Tortle still breaks the heavy armor fast movement limitation, though.
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    Post  Chris Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:26 pm

    navyik wrote:I looked at tortle barb and found the same limitation against combining multiple AC calculations.   Tortle still breaks the heavy armor fast movement limitation, though.

    True and you can save some CON points if you wanted them elsewhere

    I actually think the best use for a Tortle might be as a caster - free heavy armor that you can cast in, no need to waste points on Dex for AC.
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    Post  MAS Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:51 pm

    Chris wrote: I am getting pencil whooped by a Carbone.  I apologize to all, I now know the feeling

    Well, well, well, how the turn tables

    Too cool man, it awesome you can share gaming with your family.

    @ Alan - feel free to develop the bugbear reach controller if you like ( i noticed we both signaled interest)

    Im working on a speed focused build now....not sure if it works best as a melee or ranged build so working some options

    Ill post some builds soon, was just gonna screen shot them but have to hand copy now.


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    Post  Chris Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:53 pm

    I have been reading over the tables I mentioned earlier from XGE regarding magic items and higher level characters.  I have played several WotC published adventures with my table top groups.  It seems to me that the tables are very low in comparison  to what was actually awarded, in my opinion.

    I think the way they lay it out is a useful guide, but I propose the following for starting at 9th level.

    CHOICE (better than random loot rolls) of the following:

    3 major uncommon items (adding Armor +1 to this table)
    1 minor rare item
    3 minor uncommon items
    2 common these are basically just cosmetic items or potions of healing (2d4+2 variety)

    from these tables

    OoG during Pirates - Page 13 Tables10


    effectively that would give folks a +1 weapon, +1 armor and 1 misc item.  or a wizard could take a +1 war wand, +1 cloak of pro and a misc item.  
    most of the minor items are going to be consumables like scrolls or potions.


    magic item proposal #2

    if a character dies, all starting magic items on said dead dude are simply lost to the party.  any item found inside the ToA remains with the party and can be held or redistributed by the party.  replacement characters get the same 9th level starting stuff, tailored to the new class.  


    general proposal #3 (from Matt)

    any material from published books is allowed.  all home-brew and Unearthed Arcana material is prohibited.  this should allow for a fair and tested playing field.  

    please let me know what you think bounce
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    Post  navyik Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:20 pm

    Chris wrote:I have been reading over the tables I mentioned earlier from XGE regarding magic items and higher level characters.  I have played several WotC published adventures with my table top groups.  It seems to me that the tables are very low in comparison  to what was actually awarded, in my opinion.

    I think the way they lay it out is a useful guide, but I propose the following for starting at 9th level.

    CHOICE (better than random loot rolls) of the following:

    3 major uncommon items (adding Armor +1 to this table)
    1 minor rare item
    3 minor uncommon items
    2 common these are basically just cosmetic items or potions of healing (2d4+2 variety)

    from these tables

    OoG during Pirates - Page 13 Tables10


    effectively that would give folks a +1 weapon, +1 armor and 1 misc item.  or a wizard could take a +1 war wand, +1 cloak of pro and a misc item.  
    most of the minor items are going to be consumables like scrolls or potions.


    magic item proposal #2

    if a character dies, all starting magic items on said dead dude are simply lost to the party.  any item found inside the ToA remains with the party and can be held or redistributed by the party.  replacement characters get the same 9th level starting stuff, tailored to the new class.  


    general proposal #3 (from Matt)

    any material from published books is allowed.  all home-brew and Unearthed Arcana material is prohibited.  this should allow for a fair and tested playing field.  

    please let me know what you think   bounce

    This seems reasonable. Be sure to identify your starting magic items on your character thread.
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    Post  navyik Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:22 pm

    Chris wrote:
    navyik wrote:I looked at tortle barb and found the same limitation against combining multiple AC calculations.   Tortle still breaks the heavy armor fast movement limitation, though.

    True and you can save some CON points if you wanted them elsewhere

    I actually think the best use for a Tortle might be as a caster - free heavy armor that you can cast in, no need to waste points on Dex for AC.  

    Any class which would not ordinarily use heavy armor or have another use for Dex besides AC.
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    Post  MAS Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:42 pm

    i'm down with the 3 rules proposed above.

    Tortle would make a great heavy armor monk with its natural attacks.

    TEENAGE MUTANT MONK TORTLE. That's right, I went there.
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    Post  navyik Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:25 pm

    MAS wrote:i'm down with the 3 rules proposed above.

    Tortle would make a great heavy armor monk with its natural attacks.

    TEENAGE MUTANT MONK TORTLE. That's right, I went there.

    Everyone was thinking it. I was gonna name mine Rembrandt...
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    Post  navyik Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:35 pm

    Can someone post full Tortle data from ToA? I am finding conflicting information on the internet.
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    Post  whit10 Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:29 am

    here ya go bro...

    Shell Master – The shells can be used by the desert monster to saving throws and blocking attacks.

    Nomad – They are very much proficient in their survival skills.

    Ability Score Increase – The Constitution score will be incremented by 1.

    Softshell

    These tribes of tortles 5E can be found near the coast or riverside. These tortles are considered to be friendliest than the other tortles types.

    They help the other tribes or races very often. These tortles shells do not provide protection and they are fleshy and flat in shape.

    Softshell – The Dexterity Modifier will be incremented by 13+ with the softshelltortle’s Nature Armor.

    Tortle Agility – The unarmored movement will be gained by the Tortles. 15 feet is the base walking speed and 5 feet is the base swimming speeds respectively. They won’t gain the ability from any of the other races class.

    Ability Score Increase – The Wisdom score will be incremented by 1.
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    Post  whit10 Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:30 am

    and I'm starting off with a tank...

    Fighter/Barbarian
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    Post  navyik Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:09 am

    whit10 wrote:here ya go bro...

    Shell Master – The shells can be used by the desert monster to saving throws and blocking attacks.

    Nomad – They are very much proficient in their survival skills.

    Ability Score Increase – The Constitution score will be incremented by 1.

    Softshell

    These tribes of tortles 5E can be found near the coast or riverside. These tortles are considered to be friendliest than the other tortles types.

    They help the other tribes or races very often. These tortles shells do not provide protection and they are fleshy and flat in shape.

    Softshell – The Dexterity Modifier will be incremented by 13+ with the softshelltortle’s Nature Armor.

    Tortle Agility – The unarmored movement will be gained by the Tortles. 15 feet is the base walking speed and 5 feet is the base swimming speeds respectively. They won’t gain the ability from any of the other races class.

    Ability Score Increase – The Wisdom score will be incremented by 1.

    This appears to be a fragment of the data... but thanks...
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    Post  navyik Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:24 am

    Warforged ranger or paladin.

    Tortle paladin or wizard or sorcerer.
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    Post  Chris Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:49 am

    official tortle stats actually come from Tomb of Annihilation

    OoG during Pirates - Page 13 Tortle10



    all - please, please be careful about where you find your stats.  there are MANY sources that are incorrect but appear official.  Unearthed Aracana is from WotC but it is specifically for play testing and is not an official rule published in a book. Do NOT just go off a wiki type site. Search for the book, by name, and then .pdf so you see a digital copy of the actual sourcebook. or download them from Matt's cloud.

    you must find the actual BOOK that something is published in to be sure it is legal.   if you are not 100% sure, please don't post it
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    Post  whit10 Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:10 pm

    sorry Chris, I was just trying to be helpful, didn't realize those were so off.

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    Post  Chris Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:21 pm

    whit10 wrote:sorry Chris, I was just trying to be helpful, didn't realize those were so off.


    there is even an app that allows you to enter text blocks into fields that formats it to look like the 5e books.  this is for home-brew stuff, but it makes it really hard to tell what is real and what is home-brew

    no worries, thanks for being helpful
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    Post  Chris Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:23 pm

    also - Sam is up in the game bounce
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    Post  MAS Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:13 pm

    The free 5e character builder app takes a lot of guess work out. You can run it on a windows _PC by installing "Bluestacks" android emulator, which lets you run any android app on your PC.

    See attached pdf for a "beta" vedalken artificer artillerist build. Spells not fleshed out. The purpose of this build is to provide equipment, combat, and healing support at close, medium, and long ranges. Additional functionality from history/magic items checks, buff items, and the ability to replicate magic items round out the support package. The turret provides, fires, healing, burst aoe dmg, and forward recon capability.

    Will equip with shield and wand. Further breakdown to come.
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    Post  Chris Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:26 pm

    Website for d&d beyond also has character builder
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    Post  navyik Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:06 pm

    Does Arty use thieves tools?
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    Post  MAS Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:27 pm

    navyik wrote:Does Arty use thieves tools?

    Yes, he is proficient, the intent is to be able to provide primary or secondary thieves tool use/trap disposal as needed. Working on spells/equipment, still a few tweaks yet before final version.
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    Post  whit10 Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:49 pm

    one killing machine, no role-playing considerations... (since it doesn't matter this time)


    Artakas

    9th level Fighter/Barbarian (6/3)

    Half-Orc

    Str. 18/ +4
    Dex. 14/ +3
    Con. 16/+3
    Int. 8/ -1
    Wis. 12/+1
    Cha. 8/-1

    +2 Str. boost at 4th level
    Prof. Bonus: +4

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    Darkvision
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    0 hit points but not killed outright, you can drop to 1 hit
    point instead. You can’t use this feature again until you
    finish a long rest.
    Savage Attacks: When you score a critical hit with
    a melee weapon attack, you can roll one of the weapon’s
    damage dice one additional time and add it to the extra
    damage of the critical hit.


    Feat taken at 6th – Great Weapon Master

    Skills:
    Athletics: 8
    Intimidation: 3
    Perception: 5

    Rage: 3 – Damage Bonus: +2
    -You have advantage on Strength checks and Strength saving throws.
    -You have resistance to bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing damage.

    Reckless Attack: attack at advantage (Strength based); attacks against are at advantage until end of turn

    Danger Sense: Advantage on Dex. saves vs. traps and spells that he can see
    Path of the Totem Warrior
    3rd level: cast Beast Sense and Speak with Animals – only as rituals
    3rd level: Bear totem - While raging, you have resistance to all damage except psychic damage.

    Fighter Traits:
    Great weapon fighting (may reroll 1s and 2s on damage, have to take new result)
    Extra Attack
    Action Surge
    Improved Critical

    Combat:
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    +1 Great Axe: +9 to hit, 1d12 +8 damage, S (+10 with Great Weapon Master)
    Long Bow: +6 to hit, 1d8 +2 damage, P
    Maul: +8 to hit and 2d6+4 damage, B
    2 daggers

    AC: 18
    +1 Half Plate: 15 +2 Dex Mod.; disadvantage on stealth checks
    HP: 88
    Initiative: +2
    Saves: Strength and Constitution

    Magic Items:
    Neckless of Adaptation
    Potion of Superior Healing
    Potion of Stone Giant Strength
    Periapt of Health
    2 potions of Healing

    Dungeoneer's pack

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    Post  navyik Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:12 pm

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    Post  whit10 Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:36 pm

    hey Alan, you made the same mistake I initially made... Chris might want to also clarify this...

    We only get 3 minor magic items, total. This includes magic weapons and armor
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    Post  navyik Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:57 pm

    This is what I followed:

    Chris wrote:I have been reading over the tables I mentioned earlier from XGE regarding magic items and higher level characters.  I have played several WotC published adventures with my table top groups.  It seems to me that the tables are very low in comparison  to what was actually awarded, in my opinion.

    I think the way they lay it out is a useful guide, but I propose the following for starting at 9th level.

    CHOICE (better than random loot rolls) of the following:

    3 major uncommon items (adding Armor +1 to this table)
    1 minor rare item
    3 minor uncommon items
    2 common these are basically just cosmetic items or potions of healing (2d4+2 variety)


    from these tables

    OoG during Pirates - Page 13 Tables10


    effectively that would give folks a +1 weapon, +1 armor and 1 misc item.  or a wizard could take a +1 war wand, +1 cloak of pro and a misc item.  
    most of the minor items are going to be consumables like scrolls or potions.


    magic item proposal #2

    if a character dies, all starting magic items on said dead dude are simply lost to the party.  any item found inside the ToA remains with the party and can be held or redistributed by the party.  replacement characters get the same 9th level starting stuff, tailored to the new class.  


    general proposal #3 (from Matt)

    any material from published books is allowed.  all home-brew and Unearthed Arcana material is prohibited.  this should allow for a fair and tested playing field.  

    please let me know what you think   bounce


    3 major uncommon items (adding Armor +1 to this table)
    1 minor rare item
    3 minor uncommon items
    2 common these are basically just cosmetic items or potions of healing (2d4+2 variety)
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    Post  whit10 Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:01 pm

    I know, me too. At first. I talked to Chris the other night, it's just 3 minor items including weapons and armor and three uncommon ones. Grand total of 6 (the uncommons are mostly for potions and so forth)
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    Post  Chris Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:58 pm

    @Josh - you are confusing terms, lol. Magic wpns and armor are MAJOR items, not minor ones. Alan took GoOP, sent shield and CoP. He has no magic wpns or armor. That is fine

    @Alan - only magic item issue i see is Javelin of Lightning, which is also a major item, but you it listed as a minor item. That would give you 4 major items, unfortunately.

    I am surprised you took Dueling over Archery, but that is just my OCD wanting to see +8 to all wpn attacks Wink


    @Josh - wow, nice build! Make sure to add the Champion info, since you have both archetypes. Also remember the +10 damage comes w -5 to hit. Magic items?
    Edit - missing 2nd Wind
    Nvmd - i see the Champion ability
    Danger Sense is only Adv on Dex saves, not any saves, fyi
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    Post  navyik Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:34 pm

    Doh!

    I will fix the javelin issue.
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    Post  whit10 Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:40 am

    sorry Chris, glad I'm wrong then!!  

    I'll fix the saves thing, I meant to have that there

    ok, he has a +1 weapon and armor and the Necklace of Adaptation, so he gets three minor items as well as in "Minor Items, Rare"

    Just making sure
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    Post  navyik Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:16 am

    whit10 wrote:sorry Chris, glad I'm wrong then!!  

    I'll fix the saves thing, I meant to have that there

    ok, he has a +1 weapon and armor and the Necklace of Adaptation, so he gets three minor items as well as in "Minor Items, Rare"

    Just making sure

    As copied from Chris’s post:

    3 major uncommon items (adding Armor +1 to this table)
    1 minor rare item
    3 minor uncommon items
    2 common these are basically just cosmetic items or potions of healing (2d4+2 variety)
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    Post  navyik Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:55 pm

    Page 114 of the players handbook has rules for a wizard to spend money copying found spells into a spell book beyond the standard two spells per character level. Do you want to set a GP amount each character has for resources that are not “magic items “?
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    Post  MAS Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:38 pm

    Cant seem to find any documentation showing magic items by "minor/major" vs "rarity" besides that pic Chris shared - any help appreciated.

    I see now that Xanathars guide, and am having trouble finding my copy - anyone have a pdf?
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    Post  whit10 Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:29 pm

    it's the same thing that's in the DMG but that's a better chart for it. I had to play around with the image before I could get it to be readable. I don't know what book it's out of though
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    Post  MAS Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:48 pm

    It's in Xanathars guide as requested above. The DMG lacks the major/minor listings, as far as I can tell.

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